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		<title>A Not So Fond Farewell&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://shepherdweb.com/2009/11/10/a-not-so-fond-farewell/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Internet Explorer]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[To IE 6&#8230;Technorati Tags: IE6,  browser
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://dearie6.com/">To IE 6&#8230;</a><br /><div class="techtags"><p>Technorati Tags: <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/IE6" rel="tag">IE6</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/browser" rel="tag"> browser</a></p></div>
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		<title>Busy Day at the Office for Mozilla</title>
		<link>http://shepherdweb.com/2008/06/17/busy-day-at-the-office-for-mozilla/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Software]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[The much publicized release of Firefox 3.0 and the goal of setting a world record for the most downloads in 24 hrs has the Mozilla servers on the ropes.
Here&#8217;s a direct link to the setup file: Firefox Setup 3.0.exe.  Good luck!
Technorati Tags: Firefox,  Mozilla,  FF3
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The much publicized release of Firefox 3.0 and the goal of setting a world record for the most downloads in 24 hrs has the Mozilla servers on the ropes.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a direct link to the setup file: <a href="ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/3.0/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%203.0.exe">Firefox Setup 3.0.exe</a>.  Good luck!</p>
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		<title>iPhone Instant Messenger</title>
		<link>http://shepherdweb.com/2007/06/27/iphone-instant-messenger/</link>
		<comments>http://shepherdweb.com/2007/06/27/iphone-instant-messenger/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 21:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Apple]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Safari]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[iPhone]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[technology & web]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[So, apparently there are some complaints about the lack of an IM client for the iPhone.  &#8220;Sure, it has SMS&#8230;but we want the real deal!&#8221;  I think the existence of Meebo makes this a virtual non-issue.  Early reports claim that it will work because the iPhone&#8217;s browser is reported to be a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, apparently there are some complaints about the lack of an <abbr title="Instant Messenger">IM</abbr> client for the iPhone.  &#8220;Sure, it has SMS&#8230;but we want the real deal!&#8221;  I think the existence of <a href="http://wwwl.meebo.com/">Meebo</a> makes this a virtual non-issue.  <a href="http://blog.meebo.com/?p=323#comment-142228">Early</a> <a href="http://blog.meebo.com/?p=323#comment-141850">reports</a> <a href="http://blog.meebo.com/?p=323#comment-142190">claim</a> that it will work because the iPhone&#8217;s browser is reported to be a full version of the Safari browser&mdash;history will tell though.</p>
<p><ins datetime="7/3/2007 11:00am CST">UPDATE (7/3/07): Meebo appears to be officially supported on the iPhone now. (via <a href="http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2007/07/03/meebo-instant-messaging-support-for-iphone/">MacRumors</a>)</ins></p>
<p><ins datetime="7/5/2007 8:30am CST">UPDATE (7/5/07): More on this topic&mdash;<a href="http://www.tuaw.com/2007/07/04/using-multi-network-meebo-chat-service-on-your-iphone/">Using multi-network Meebo chat service on your iPhone</a>.</ins></p>
<div class="techtags"><p>Technorati Tags: <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/iPhone" rel="tag">iPhone</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/SMS" rel="tag"> SMS</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/IM" rel="tag"> IM</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Instant+Messenger" rel="tag"> Instant Messenger</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Apple" rel="tag"> Apple</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Safari" rel="tag"> Safari</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Meebo" rel="tag"> Meebo</a></p></div>
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		<title>Safari 3.0 Beta Versions</title>
		<link>http://shepherdweb.com/2007/06/13/safari-30-beta-versions/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 03:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Safari]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[traffic]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[The user agent on my Window XP SP2 machine is 522.11.3, on my OS X 10.4.9 machine it&#8217;s 522.11.  While browsing my web stats for the last 24 hours, I noticed a user agent I had not seen before: Safari 522.8.3.

What version is this?  Vista?  iPhone?  Alpha?
Update: I just upgraded to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The user agent on my Window XP SP2 machine is 522.11.3, on my OS X 10.4.9 machine it&#8217;s 522.11.  While browsing my <a href="http://www.haveamint.com/">web stats</a> for the last 24 hours, I noticed a user agent I had not seen before: Safari 522.8.3.</p>
<p><img src='http://www.shepherdweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/safariuseragents.png' alt='Safari User Agents' /></p>
<p>What version is this?  Vista?  iPhone?  Alpha?</p>
<p><ins datetime="6/14/07 9:15am"><b>Update:</b> I just upgraded to Safari 3.0.1 on my Windows XP box.  The user agent is 522.12.2.</ins></p>
<div class="techtags"><p>Technorati Tags: <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Safari" rel="tag">Safari</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Safari+3.0" rel="tag"> Safari 3.0</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/user+agent" rel="tag"> user agent</a></p></div>
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		<title>Safari Getting Closer</title>
		<link>http://shepherdweb.com/2007/02/08/safari-getting-closer/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 23:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Safari]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[technology & web]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[web design]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Following up on this post&#8230;
Andrew Dupont mentions some of the improvements to the next version of Apple&#8217;s Safari web browser rapidly approaching release. 
Meanwhile, the Webkit development team is focusing on stabilization.
Technorati Tags: Safari,  Webkit,  Apple,  Leopard
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following up on <a href="http://www.shepherdweb.com/2007/01/20/safari-bugs-bring-on-os-105-leopard/">this post</a>&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.andrewdupont.net/">Andrew Dupont</a> <a href="http://www.andrewdupont.net/2006/08/15/">mentions</a> <a href="http://www.andrewdupont.net/2007/02/07/link-webkit-blog/">some</a> of the improvements to the next version of Apple&#8217;s Safari web browser rapidly approaching release. </p>
<p>Meanwhile, the Webkit development team is <a href="http://webkit.org/blog/?p=93">focusing on stabilization</a>.</p>
<div class="techtags"><p>Technorati Tags: <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Safari" rel="tag">Safari</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Webkit" rel="tag"> Webkit</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Apple" rel="tag"> Apple</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Leopard" rel="tag"> Leopard</a></p></div>
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		<title>Walmart Hates Firefox Users?</title>
		<link>http://shepherdweb.com/2007/02/06/walmart-hates-firefox-users/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 22:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Humor]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[browsers]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Walmart has launched it&#8217;s movie download site, and labeled it Beta.  How &#8220;Web 2.0&#8243; of them.  Apparently Walmart doesn&#8217;t like Firefox users.
Here it is in Firefox 2.0, Windows XP:

&#8230;and here it is in IE7, Windows XP:


&#8230;and in Safari 2.0.4, Apple 10.4.8:

Technorati Tags: Walmart,  mediadownloads.walmart.com,  Firefox
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walmart has launched it&#8217;s <a href="http://mediadownloads.walmart.com/">movie download site</a>, and labeled it <b>Beta</b>.  How &#8220;Web 2.0&#8243; of them.  Apparently Walmart doesn&#8217;t like <a href="http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/">Firefox</a> users.</p>
<p>Here it is in Firefox 2.0, Windows XP:</p>
<p><a class="imagelink" href="http://www.shepherdweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/walmartvideodownloadsite.jpg" title="Walmart Video Download site - Firefox 2.0"><img id="image113" src="http://www.shepherdweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/walmartvideodownloadsite.thumbnail.jpg" alt="Walmart Video Download site - Firefox 2.0" /></a></p>
<p>&#8230;and here it is in <abbr title="Internet Explorer">IE</abbr>7, Windows XP:</p>
<p><a class="imagelink" href="http://www.shepherdweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/walmartvideodownloadsite-ie7.jpg" title="Walmart Video Download site - IE7"><img id="image115" src="http://www.shepherdweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/walmartvideodownloadsite-ie7.thumbnail.jpg" alt="Walmart Video Download site - IE7" /></a></p>
<p><ins datetime="2/6/2007 7:30pm"><br />
&#8230;and in Safari 2.0.4, Apple 10.4.8:</p>
<p><a class="imagelink" href="http://www.shepherdweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/picture-3.png" title="Walmart Video Download site - Safari 2.0.4"><img id="image116" src="http://www.shepherdweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/picture-3.thumbnail.png" alt="Walmart Video Download site - Safari 2.0.4" /></a></ins></p>
<div class="techtags"><p>Technorati Tags: <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Walmart" rel="tag">Walmart</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/mediadownloads.walmart.com" rel="tag"> mediadownloads.walmart.com</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Firefox" rel="tag"> Firefox</a></p></div>
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		<title>Safari Bugs (Bring on OS 10.5 Leopard)</title>
		<link>http://shepherdweb.com/2007/01/20/safari-bugs-bring-on-os-105-leopard/</link>
		<comments>http://shepherdweb.com/2007/01/20/safari-bugs-bring-on-os-105-leopard/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 17:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Apple]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[OS 10.5 Leopard]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[I remember feeling a little defensive when I first learned that not all Mac users love Safari.  Perhaps it was because I was being ridiculed for liking Safari.  I have tried several times to make Firefox my primary browser on the Mac (it already is on PC), but keep coming back.  However, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember feeling a little defensive when I first learned that not all Mac users love Safari.  Perhaps it was because I was being ridiculed for liking Safari.  I have tried several times to make Firefox my primary browser on the Mac (it already is on PC), but keep coming back.  However, it is becoming increasingly evident that it is time for new Safari release.</p>
<p>Safari was the first browser to pass the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid2">Acid2</a> test, to support CSS3 Specs like <a href="http://webkit.org/blog/?p=15">multiple background images</a> and CSS2 <a href="http://www.quirksmode.org/css/textshadow.html">text-shadow</a>.   While I&#8217;m glad that the Safari developers are dedicated to being leaders in these areas, many of these items actually have limited application until other browsers catch up.  There are some areas where I&#8217;m ready for Safari to catch up.</p>
<p>Andy Budd took contributions of <a href="http://www.andybudd.com/archives/2005/11/common_css_bugs_in_safari_firefox_and_opera/index.php">Common CSS Bugs in Safari, Firefox, and Opera</a> over a year ago.  At that time one commenter expressed surprise at the lack of an existing list.  Quirksmode has accumulated a useful list of <a href="http://www.quirksmode.org/bugreports/archives/safari/index.html">Bug Reports for Safari</a> that include test cases. There are a few CSS bugs in Safari that are annoying, but the main complaint of most is Safari&#8217;s increasingly lagging Javascript support.</p>
<p><a href="http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/">TinyMCE</a> still does not work in Safari.  There are also numerous quirks with  <a href="http://script.aculo.us/">Scriptaculous</a> and other Javascript frameworks.  A javascript debugger, named <a href="http://trac.webkit.org/projects/webkit/wiki/Drosera">Drosera</a>, was <a href="http://webkit.org/blog/?p=61">announced in June 2006</a> and integrated into WebKit.  However, you must download one of the <a href="http://nightly.webkit.org/">WebKit nightly builds</a> in order to reap the benefits of Drosera.  It is not useful for debugging in the current version, but will be included in the release coming with OS 10.5 Leopard.</p>
<p>Other enhancements to be included in the release with the coming OS include:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://webkit.org/blog/?p=65">JavaScript getters and setters, DOM class prototypes, New CSS3 properties including resize, background-size, border-radius (now complete), overflow-x and overflow-y, CSS3 Media Queries, Continued progress on styleable form controls, and more</a></li>
<li><a href="http://webkit.org/blog/?p=88">CSS3 Multi-Column Support</a></li>
<li><a href="http://webkit.org/blog/?p=86">Box Shadow</a></li>
<li><a href="http://webkit.org/blog/?p=85">Text-Stroke</a></li>
</ul>
<p>I still use Safari as my main browser despite trying several times to adopt Firefox (which I use when developing web interfaces).  Even though it has a more compliant rendering engine, there are a couple of annoyances that keep Firefox from becoming the top dog for me:  </p>
<ul>
<li>It takes Firefox about 2-8 more seconds to open than it takes Safari to open (depending on what else my computer is doing at the moment).</li>
<li>The Firefox leaks badly.  This means that the longer it is left open, the slower my computer gets as more and more memory is being used.  Eventually I have to close Firefox and reopen it for me computer to be usable&#8230;and wait those additional seconds that it takes Firefox to open.</li>
</ul>
<p>The absence of an announcement at MacWorld &#8216;07 as left many speculating about the release of 10.5 originally promised for Spring 2007;  I still think it will happen and I&#8217;m ready for it.</p>
<div class="techtags"><p>Technorati Tags: <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Safari" rel="tag">Safari</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/WebKit" rel="tag"> WebKit</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Firefox" rel="tag"> Firefox</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Apple" rel="tag"> Apple</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Leopard" rel="tag"> Leopard</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/OS+10.5" rel="tag"> OS 10.5</a></p></div>
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